Anyone got the 40 yr TAX exemption yet?

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Anyone got the 40 yr TAX exemption yet?

Post by TimS » Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:42 am

Hi all,

As my 1978 based Ford / Ranger is now nearly(?) 40 years old I was wondering if anyone has enjoyed the TAX exemption thing yet on their Ranger?

This is a separate question from any MOT exemption or a Ranger on a Q plate etc.

This link seems to pin the whole thing down reasonably well:

http://www.p6club.com/content/applying-tax-exemption

So I need to check out my registration doc to see when in 78 the donor Escort was first registered and go from there.

Do we have access to a build date archive like the Rover P6 boys do?

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Re: Anyone got the 40 yr TAX exemption yet?

Post by RichardS » Fri Mar 30, 2018 6:47 pm

Hello Tim,
My Ranger has been tax exempt for the last few years and hopefully will be MOT exempt in May. It is regestered on it's original 1974 Escort number, I have all the supporting documents which was perfectly correct when it was done.
My understanding is that if your vehicle is registered as the donor and 40 years old it can be tax exempt, if its a Q plate or anything else it can't. Thus no matter how old my Q registered Rancher gets it will continue to require tax, shame!
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Richard

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Re: Anyone got the 40 yr TAX exemption yet?

Post by JamesF » Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:06 pm

RichardS wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 6:47 pm
....if its a Q plate or anything else it can't. Thus no matter how old my Q registered Rancher gets it will continue to require tax, shame!
Ah.... be optimistic! With electric cars and new cars (tax free) becoming the norm on our roads as time goes on - road tax at some stage will be dropped. The way I look at it at present is road tax is £22 per month and that's the only cost whereas depreciation on a new car is significantly higher even if tax free.

Of course road tax is a pain if one only uses the car occasionally - a Ranger for me is an everyday motor.

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Re: Anyone got the 40 yr TAX exemption yet?

Post by TimS » Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:57 am

RichardS wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 6:47 pm
Hello Tim,
Hi Richard and thanks for the reply. ;-)
My Ranger has been tax exempt for the last few years
Cool. ;-)
and hopefully will be MOT exempt in May. It is regestered on it's original 1974 Escort number, I have all the supporting documents which was perfectly correct when it was done.
So what sort of docs were those and did you have to actively present them to anyone can you remember please?
My understanding is that if your vehicle is registered as the donor and 40 years old it can be tax exempt,
That is mine as well, but with some twiddly bits around the actual 40 year threshold and the exemptions being issued in batches etc?
if its a Q plate or anything else it can't. Thus no matter how old my Q registered Rancher gets it will continue to require tax, shame!
Shame indeed. ;-(

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Re: Anyone got the 40 yr TAX exemption yet?

Post by TimS » Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:20 am

RichardS wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 6:47 pm
Ah.... be optimistic! With electric cars and new cars (tax free)
I've had an electric vehicle 'enjoying' free road tax for over 30 years now. ;-) It was very interesting when renewing the tax in the Post Office ... everyone else queuing holding their cash, insurance cert and MOT and I just had the insurance cover-note. ;-)
becoming the norm on our roads as time goes on - road tax at some stage will be dropped. The way I look at it at present is road tax is £22 per month and that's the only cost whereas depreciation on a new car is significantly higher even if tax free.
I think my 1300 Ranger is only ~£12/m so even better. All this was why I was holding off doing anything to the Ranger, inc upgrading the 1300 for the 1600 crossflow.
Of course road tax is a pain if one only uses the car occasionally - a Ranger for me is an everyday motor.
Mine used to be one of our everyday drivers but when we got given more economical vehicles it was relegated to 'emergency', 'fun' or 'utility' (dump runs or making use of the big roof rack) use. Now it's not getting used at all and will probably only show the mileage back to the MOT station again. ;-(

Assuming I can get it to start and the clutch un-seized that is (it normally starts pretty quickly and a short trip round the block bouncing it on the throttle with my foot on the clutch generally frees that).

I can bring myself to parting with it but one of the prime reasons for building a 'kit car' in the first place was that meant I didn't have to deal with rusty bodywork, as was typical of many old cars around at the time. That doesn't seem to be so much of an issue these days.

I keep thinking (especially when I get a sniff of the exhaust) that the Ranger might make a reasonably easy electric conversion, even as just a local runabout but one remaining 'virtue' was the simplicity of the Ranger and with the free TAX / MOT thing, should make it a pretty cheap vehicle to keep on the road if our means dictate (and potentially not with a limited range, as per an EV).

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Re: Anyone got the 40 yr TAX exemption yet?

Post by RichardS » Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:56 pm

As I recall there was a form to down load from DVLA site to fill out and send that to them, I was surprised by how easy it was but I've always been a luck person!
As far as dropping Road Tax any UK government is unlikely to do that as they are trapped between the two stools of loads of revenue and bureaucracy.
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Re: Anyone got the 40 yr TAX exemption yet?

Post by RichardS » Tue May 29, 2018 2:14 pm

I've also got the new MOT free 40 year ruling on a motor bike which only required form V112 when I "taxed" it. Very straight forward.

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Re: Anyone got the 40 yr TAX exemption yet?

Post by TimS » Wed May 30, 2018 8:16 am

RichardS wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 2:14 pm
I've also got the new MOT free 40 year ruling on a motor bike which only required form V112 when I "taxed" it. Very straight forward.
Result. ;-)

None of my bikes are that old but then they are cheaper on road tax anyway. :-)

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Re: Anyone got the 40 yr TAX exemption yet?

Post by RichardS » Wed May 30, 2018 2:33 pm

All my bikes, all nine of them, are now free of MOT and "tax". And it's my birthday so I'm a happy boy!
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Re: Anyone got the 40 yr TAX exemption yet?

Post by TimS » Wed May 30, 2018 5:15 pm

RichardS wrote:
Wed May 30, 2018 2:33 pm
All my bikes, all nine of them, are now free of MOT and "tax". And it's my birthday so I'm a happy boy!
Richard
That's a result, 9 bikes on historic (or whatever it's called) ... and Happy Birthday! ;-)

Actually having a count up we (including the Wife's 750 and daughters 600 Bandit) have 10 bikes but only 4 of them on the road atm.

Actually, thinking about it the Honda Express and the Mobylette might be getting quite old now ...

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