Have a Ranger Conv? rear spring lowering

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Have a Ranger Conv? rear spring lowering

Post by JamesF » Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:30 pm

Anyone who has a conv I'd be interested to hear from.

I find my rear a little high compared with the saloon I have which is level. Both have the same multi leaf springs (unless the conv has stiffer springs in which case how can one identify them?).

The conv has the hardtop and I find it irritating reversing in car parks and so was thinking of putting on a spring lowering kit. With the hardtop the rear window is actually higher than on the saloon.

Just wondering if anyone else has that with a conv and if they have put a 1" or 2" kit on.

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Re: Have a Ranger Conv? rear spring lowering

Post by ABurgess » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:30 am

Hi James.

My thinking on this is because the saloon sits lower may be down to the fact that there is more body weight than a convertible. that's just my theory. I used single van springs on my Ranger and the car sat level front to back, does your saloon sit level and is the convertible higher at the back than the front?

Alan.

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Re: Have a Ranger Conv? rear spring lowering

Post by JamesF » Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:59 pm

ABurgess wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:30 am
Hi James.

My thinking on this is because the saloon sits lower may be down to the fact that there is more body weight than a convertible. that's just my theory. I used single van springs on my Ranger and the car sat level front to back, does your saloon sit level and is the convertible higher at the back than the front?

Alan.
True there is more weight on the saloon and she does sit level. I have the multi leaf springs and certainly with my Escort she did sink I'm sure over the years. My conv is appreciably higher at the back I feel and wonder if I have uprated springs on her.

The kit is £30-40 which isn't gong to break the bank but I was wondering if anyone else had fitted one. Seems to me it will be a bit of trial and error - and time fitting which i'd like to avoid as the conv is my daily motor.

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Re: Have a Ranger Conv? rear spring lowering

Post by ABurgess » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:41 am

Hi James.

Do you get a set of u bolts with this set as in my experience they usually break when trying to undo the nuts, so you have to then replace the u bolts. I would expect there to be some in the set probably longer ones to account for the spacers you fit to lower the axle, don't forget this is a modification to your vehicle and you should inform your insurance company!

Regards Alan.

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Re: Have a Ranger Conv? rear spring lowering

Post by JamesF » Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:41 pm

ABurgess wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:41 am
Hi James.

Do you get a set of u bolts with this set as in my experience they usually break when trying to undo the nuts, so you have to then replace the u bolts. I would expect there to be some in the set probably longer ones to account for the spacers you fit to lower the axle, don't forget this is a modification to your vehicle and you should inform your insurance company!

Regards Alan.
The sets I have seen do seem to have U-bolts which are longer. I'm planning to replace the spring bushes as well and then the job is sound for a good few years. I will inform the insurance company but if it is not a performance mod they are not concerned in my experience. One can have a stainless standard exhaust system but a cherry or some sports related silencer does have an issue with insurance. I would argue the modification is enhancing my visibility and thus reducing the risk of a bump while reversing.

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Re: Have a Ranger Conv? rear spring lowering

Post by ABurgess » Mon Feb 19, 2018 3:53 pm

Hi James.

If you have not already spent out on your leaf spring bushes then I would opt for polyurethane ones, I put them all round on my last Ranger and they never failed an mot again,

Thinking about it can you still get the rubber ones?

Alan.

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Re: Have a Ranger Conv? rear spring lowering

Post by JamesF » Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:19 pm

Yes thanks - I do believe in poly ones but the only ones worth fitting are Chris Witor's Superflex. They are quite different to other makes and slide in perfectly. I tested a few when I had a Scimitar. One can still get rubber but the Escort 'achiles heel' on the front suspension was any oil leak would find it's way to the TCA bush. Mine do need replacing because of this - engine replaced but the previous one did the damage.

Of course the other issue is - are the front struts/spring the correct ones. I can only guess that one needs different depending on whether one has a 1600 OHV, 1600 OHC and 2000 OHC (due to the weight). The TCA are Escort II and it may be Mexico are required (I think they were different for the 2000 OHC). My black ranger is level with the 2000 OHC and the white conv 1600 OHV in fact has slight negative camber on the wheels. Apparently there were about 20 different spring/strut combinations... so what was fitted to a ranger?

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Re: Have a Ranger Conv? rear spring lowering

Post by RichardS » Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:51 pm

I've bought two vehicle sets of poly bushes for my Rickmans but have not fitted any yet as the MOT man is still happy with the rubber ones fitted so I can't comment. However as stated there must be loads of front strut options as my Rancher has a bit of negative camber that I wish wasn't there, it handles well and has no detrimental effect as far as I can make of but it just doesn't look right on a camper.
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Re: Have a Ranger Conv? rear spring lowering

Post by ABurgess » Sat Mar 10, 2018 8:13 pm

Hi James
As for the front springs do you know what is fitted? are they uprated or standard escort, if you are running a ohv engine they may well be adequate if not too tired, if you have a pinto the springs will need uprating to 145Lb plus 1 inch to take the weight of the pinto which a heavy engine actually heavier that the rover V8.

Alan.

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Re: Have a Ranger Conv? rear spring lowering

Post by JamesF » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:12 pm

ABurgess wrote:
Sat Mar 10, 2018 8:13 pm
Hi James
As for the front springs do you know what is fitted? are they uprated or standard escort, if you are running a ohv engine they may well be adequate if not too tired, if you have a pinto the springs will need uprating to 145Lb plus 1 inch to take the weight of the pinto which a heavy engine actually heavier that the rover V8.

Alan.
Well no... it is not that easy to identify what's fitted other than measuring the wire dia with a vernier and counting the coils. The haynes manual lists different springs for saloon, sport and van 8/10 cwt. Colour codes aren't that helpful as different manufacturers varied them. I noticed on ebay there were RS2000 ones which were 145lbs which is what you mentioned. I also got this week the haynes manual for Escort II 1600 OHC, 1834 and RS2000 and they seem to have had the same springs Brown/Grey free length 263mm and 5.98 coils. As the heaviest duty fitted it would seem that they are the ones to go for. How did you come across the 'plus 1 inch'.

As you say if original standard Escort II springs were fitted they would be tired - I reckon a pair of springs/struts on any car have a life of about 5 years. I'm just surprised as it seems no one else has fitted some recently. The 145 lbs would be the better option as a hard ride would be better than softer.

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